PIDP 3250 Discussion Forum Summary
Total Postings: 42
5 Discussion Threads
- Visible Learning : John Hattie’s Meta-Analysis
13 postings – 38% of the class contributed
- Teachers as their own evaluators
15 postings – 56% of the class contributed
- Effects on student achievement
5 postings – 25% of the class contributed
- Effective instructional strategies
4 postings – 25% of the class contributed
- Hattie’s 8 mind frames
5 postings – 31% of the class contributed
Key Themes & Points:
#1 Visible Learning: John Hattie’s Meta-Analysis
What is Visible Learning? What are some of the main concepts behind John Hattie’s meta-analysis?
- Visible Learning and Teaching occurs when teachers see learning through the eyes of students and help them become their own teachers.”
- 800 meta-analyses relating to student achievement
- Become learners of your own teaching – “Know Thy Impact”
#2 Teachers as Their Own Evaluators
“Visible Learning means an enhanced role for teachers as they become evaluators of their own teaching. According to John Hattie Visible Learning and Teaching occurs when teachers see learning through the eyes of students and help them become their own teachers.”
Do you agree or disagree with this strategy and why? What does this strategy mean to you as an instructor?
- Most agree self-assessment is an effective strategy to measure their impact on students
- What if some teachers do not keep updated and continue to change or progress through self-assessment or student evaluation?
- An independent third-party to evaluate teachers can be helpful in regulating a teacher’s progress or effectiveness
#3 Effects on Student Achievement
In this video John Hattie discusses and compares over a hundred different influences or aspects in education that effect student achievement. He states that according to analysis, there is no evidence that homework relates to students’ study skills. “You don’t learn to study by doing homework, you learn to study by being taught how to study in school.”
John Hattie’s Visible Learning Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sng4p3Vsu7Y (Take a look at 9:10)
Do you agree or disagree and why? Are there any circumstances or personal experiences you can share that may or may not illustrate or support this finding?
- Some felt ambivalent and some disagree that homework is not effective in student achievement
- Depending on the circumstances homework can be beneficial to practice and reinforce what was taught in the classroom.
- Homework is beneficial as it promotes independent study, indicates learning can occur at home, and creates good study habits. Keeps parents updated on what is their child is learning
- Homework is not beneficial as it can cause boredom and interfere on personal or recreational time. Parents can be too involved and pressure student learning.
- Home work is beneficial if meaningful, engaging, promotes active thinking and learning.
- Personal experiences were shared that in support of homework and had positive benefits for their own children.
#4 Effective Instructional Strategies
In the second part of Hattie’s video he discusses factors that are effective in student achievement. For instance, Hattie states that “backward matters”. He explains how the instructional strategy “Worked Examples” was found to be fairly effective on student achievement. He explains that showing students what success looks like and giving the answers is a more effective way to teach because students can focus on the process and the strategy of getting the answers.
John Hattie’s Visible Learning Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pD1DFTNQf4 (Take a look at 1:30)
Do you think this is an effective instructional strategy? What instructional strategies or student engagement techniques do you think works best with visible learning?
- Most agreed that “Worked Examples” is an effective instructional strategy
- More productive especially if students are struggling
- Allowing students to struggles wastes valuable time
- Giving the answers or showing final product will help student understand concept with ease
#5 Hattie’s 8 Mind Frames:
Which of Hattie’s 8 mind frames resonates with you the most and why?
Hattie’s 8 Mind Frames:
- My fundamental task is to evaluate the effect of my teaching on student’s learning and achievement
The success and failure of my students’ learning is about what I do or don’t do. I am a change agent
I want to talk more about learning than teaching
Assessment is about my impact
I teach through dialogue not monologue
I enjoy the challenge and never retreat to doing my best
It’s my role to develop positive relationships in class and staffrooms
I inform all about the language of learning
Most chose more than one mind frame that resonated with them
Three chose mind frame #1 – self-evaluation
Two chose mind frame #2 – change agent
One chose mind frame #3 – talk about learning
One chose mind frame #4 – my impact
One chose mind frame #5 – dialogue
One chose mind frame #7 – positive relationships
Mind frames are good reminders of the type of instructors we strive to be
Barkley, E. F. (2010). Student engagement techniques: A handbook for college faculty. San Francisco: Jossey-Bass